Amazing Dennis solo (MP3)

[palmerlouie]

agreed......omas soloing does seem to have a more musical flavour to it. the solos on the victor bailey cd's especially low blow.....are very nice. is it laziness with dennis tho...?? after hearing the omar hakim cd's i jumped at the chance to go see him do a clinic and was very dissapointed. he was just doing continuous rolls around the drums.....he was however a very nice guy and was very knolegeable but his playing was far far from special........dennis would have blown him off the stage.......

its also dennis' character and personality that comes across in his playing more than anyone else and i like that....

[mja61]

25 minutes? Sounds like Dennis has shortened it up recently [img]wink.gif[/img]

I've seen Dennis in clinic a couple of times, and his solos have always been about 45 or 50 minutes. He does seem to have a standard "outline" he likes to follow, so it gets a little old after a while, but I never get tired of observing his technique. During one solo, he played this "dumb" pseudo-polyrhythmic groove for about 10 minutes with no variation. I was just about ready to start climbing the walls!!

Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of clinicians have been "overdoing it" lately when it comes to solos? I dig solos just as much as anyone else, but I think it is possible to OD on them, especially if they last 30 to 60 minutes and have no fresh ideas.

One exception is the Vinnie solo Steve posted for us (the one that starts off with Vinnie talking about "verbal warfare"). That one is about 20 minutes, but it seems much shorter when I listen to it. (Maybe because I'm busy picking my jaw up off the floor!!!!) Thanks again for making it available to us, Steve!!!

[FuseU1]

HA! Funny thing, Derek [& a cool surprise!] - I was goin thru some of my "packed away" CD coll'ctn., & found that I DO indeed already have Coster's "From the Streets['96]!" I evidently bought it a while ago, & for some now unknown reason or another, never got around to listen'g to it [geez!] So I'm gonna give it a listen...I'll eventually pick up those others that u mentioned....

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 24, 2002 01:44 AM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[PencilZ]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor=""><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FuseU1:

& Me2 - on the 'up-side,' it's pretty cool that u were able 2 c Berg [img]smile.gif[/img] - evidently he's passed away [car accident] [img]frown.gif[/img] ....</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sadly bob has gone, rest his sole [img]frown.gif[/img] .....his Short stories album is brilliant with peter erskine on drums.
I just missed seeing his new band with novak on drums which, they were supposed to be recording for. perhaps they have?

Ps: you know these quotes in BRIGHT orange make you feel like you've been takin something illegal, i've got to stop using them! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[FuseU1]

Guys, i know this was an older topic, but i just have to type in on this one -

After all this time [since this post initially], I just now REALLY sat down & gave the DC solo on Vic Bailey's "Sweet Tooth" mp3 a good, full listen, & i have to say -

HOLEY !@#$%&* CRIPES!! I may have said that i prefer not to have to endure a 25 min. drum solo, but if it's played like THIS cat -
JEEEZ. That is 1 SCARY MF'n solo...BRRRRRRRRRR...
There was never ANY question about DC's ability/agility, & this just NAILS it even more...
UNBELIEVABLE, if u ask me. There is some frighteningly FIERCE phrasing in there [& his "metric modulatin'," IN HIS OWN WAY, is about da**-near as scary as Vinnie's, Dave W's, Virgil's, & RGratton's]...*phew*...I gotta go practice again [for the next 5 yrs. straight, non-stop]. Either that or use the rest of the stix that i bought in bulk for Cmas kindling/firewood; or nose-pickers; or bowel movement inducers...

This solo's a resounding [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] - that's right, right up my ol' keister when i wasn't lookin'/least expected it...

So he's 'cocky,' huh? Altho it's still no excuse, but after hearing this gruv & solo [AWA any OTHER gruv he's ever layed down] - i can understand it.... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Put this one on & TURN IT UP - make sure NO ONE ELSE is around, & your low-end is THUMPIN' [like I do with Virgil & DW's solo CDs]...

That is one RIDICULOUS clip, Selim, thanx...i'm STILL freakin' shell-shocked [& i think i crapped my pants/peed my drawers] - [wait, that mightve just been a false alarm...nope...yep, that's poop allright].... [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 25, 2002 05:32 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[jonthibault]

I don't like the way Dennis solos. I think it's just a series of licks, rather than tasty musical phrasing. He's got great singles, blah, blah, blah, but I think his forte is grooving with a band.

[jonthibault]

Yeah, it's just not what I'm into. The solo on Zildjian Days London, for example, just isn't very good in my opinion. It just doesn't move me and I think it's boring and pointless. It doesn't go anywhere. But, playing with music, Dennis's pocket is sick and he can groove his ass off.

[FuseU1]

I may have sounded like i was bowin down w/ a "we're not worthy, [repeat]," or a good "toe-suckin'", but let me explain a little bit further...
S'up, T...I actually agree w/ a lot of what u just said - but what so impressed me most about that particular [DC w/ Vic Bailey] mp3 solo was not so much the chopsy-lix, but more his use of polyrhythms/compound meter/"super-imposed metric modulation" [Vinnie's title/descriptn], [NTM/AWA within the solid TIME of it]; which is STILL, i guess at best, utilized more to impress the musicians & drummers of the crowd than anything else, perhaps - or IS it, these days... [img]wink.gif[/img] -
& yeah, his gruvin w/ any band is great - way smooth, greasy, phat, funky...[not necessarily in that order]....

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 28, 2002 04:28 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[FuseU1]

Yeah. Haven't seen that London vid [& i don't know who's on there] - evidently i'm not missin anything; unless VC, DW, or VD's on there, AW [img]wink.gif[/img] ...Yobro - give me some examples of your fav solos that you've been listen'g to lately [either here or send me an e messg, when u get a chance] that 'move ya' so's i'se can check 'em'at.... [img]wink.gif[/img]

A few that i've been really diggin on lately is at the tail end of the Mike Stern tune "You Never Know," off his "Between the Lines" [DW on 8 trax, DC on 2] - DW delivers a superbly phrased solo to the guitar vamp [he plays great thruout the tune]; another is that "VC w/ Alan Pasqua at an LA club" boot off Stv H's site; DW again off CCABAlive's "Morning Sprite" & Michel Cam's 1st solo CD [1st 4 tunes]...there's many more, of course, but that's enuf 4 now....

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 26, 2002 02:12 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[jonthibault]

Yeah, Morning Sprite is just sick. The singles he does at the very end blow me away. Very energetic solo. That's what I like: solos that go somewhere. Vinnie does a thing in seven on Z Days New York that's pretty ridiculous. It took me a while just to figure out it was in seven (the snare sounds like it's on 2 and 4, and the bass drum sounds like it's on 1 and 3, but they're actually going over the bar line in 7/8).

I think Steve Gadd plays some really tasty stuff with Weckl on Master Plan. I actually like Gadd's playing on that take more than Weckl's. I hate that one lick Gadd does, though. He always seems to resort to it...

I've seen Elvin play, and he plays about the most boring drum solos on the planet. Long, too. I went to a Steve Smith clinic about four months ago (won a snare drum, even), and he played for about half an hour straight and it was very entertaining and interesting. I guess it just depends on the person, the mood he's in, and his vocabulary.

I myself have been known to play horrible drum solos, with no regard to finesse, time, or technique, but that's just me.